gogeta ultra instinct vs beerus

Your post will get automatically removed if it is not flaired. Beerus is all hype and weird percentages regarding his power. Going by your logic Beerus should be able to erase all of them so that shouldn’t be an issue for him. He wouldn't even need Blue, he could easily do it with SSJG and maybe even pull it off in a hard fought battle in SSJ3, and that's if you say MUI Goku and Beerus are equals. I think it's pretty evident at this point that Broly is stronger than Beerus. [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). Poll Gogeta and Beerus vs MUI Goku and LB Jiren (59 votes) Team 1 68% . Not only his he skilled, he has abilities that can destroy both of them with ease. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Threads asking how X character would do with a Y-Colored Lantern Ring are not allowed. I’m gonna say Goku and Jiren wins base on feats and power implication and skills, Beerus and Gogeta By Hype. A.Whis is way more powerful than Beerus is. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 1.2 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. This isn't his full power and is a showing of feat that jiren nor goku have. And that was before his power boost. ... TC always insists SSB Fusions are weaker as a whole in the franchise and REREAD the title. Team 1. So I’ll ask again in case I wasn’t being clear last time do you have any feats that suggest that Beerus is capable of erasing the likes of SSB Gogeta? Report rule breaking and leave rule enforcement to the mods. Oh hell yes. ryans Present Zamasu ( who was weaker than even SSJ2 Goku.). Furthermore, Full power SSJ Broly couldn’t even land a single finger on Gogeta once he used SSB. Yes. @thekappa78: eh, it was not supposed to mean gogeta ssj > Jiren or UI lol. At the height of the power weve seen them have on screen (so that's Gogeta Blue when he fought Broly) (edited by administrators) Gogeta Autonomous Ultra Instinct (ability) Autonomous Ultra Instinct Dragon Ball Super: Broly. (Christmas). B. Whis has a complete mastery over his ultra instinct. Jiren was set up as a person who has surpassed the GoD of his own universe and with no real statements or feats as to how that GoD ranks with the rest and could have been the weakest GoD for all we know. Even with a power boost it wouldn’t automatically make him stronger or on the same level as the other GoDs because the power gaps would vary, e.g Goku getting SSJ1 was impressive because he surpassed Frieza but that same SSJ1 wouldn’t have compared to the androids or Perfect Cell. Beerus isn't 2-C because he cannot destroy 2 universes alone. Whis also says this to Vegeta when he fights Beerus in the manga and loses the fight. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Beerus was terrified of a Jiren who wasn’t even showing a hint of his true power does that mean heavily suppressed Jiren > Beerus then? Jiren before he went Limit Breaker was already stronger than Belmod, who might not be as strong as Beerus, but it still says alot. Whis makes another statement in the anime saying that Mastering Ultra Instinct would result in Goku/ Vegeta surpassing Beerus. Though Gogeta probably has more raw power. As for Broly, I feel he'd be "At least Low 2-C, possibly 2-C" rather than definitively 2-C, since he was stomped by Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta, who is debatably in the same tier as Ultra Instinct Goku, and is probably stronger than Beerus. May 1, 2020 - Explore Stacey Green's board "ultra instinct vegito & gogeta", followed by 526 people on Pinterest. Meaning Broly, and Jiren are non factors in this fight as neither of them have any hax. Even the fully mastered state of the gods, Ultra Instinct, falls short to the jewel of universe eleven. that statement was replaced by beerus was " What an Unbelievable guy", so if beerus is in mui goku level and that goku defeated jiren than its pretty obvious that beerus> jiren. re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote GohanAntifan93 Gogeta Blue > Super Saiyan Full Power Broly > Super Saiyan Gogeta >Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku > Jiren > Ultra Instinct Goku Fusion is generally> the strongest non fused character. it was referring mui with the text being " Gokus hair and aura starts to glow SILVER. Subreddit vs Subreddit posts or other posts looking to get a rise out of other online communities (Tumblr, 4chan, etc, etc). and if you add beerus here who has million+ years exp, Hakai and also incomplete ultra instinct than team 1 absolute destroys team 2 with mid to low diff, the only problem team 1 will be facing is mui gokus dodge hacks. Hakai has shown to be close range, far range and as energy releases. @alextheboss: I don't agree with Broly being stronger than LB Jiren, but yeah he's atleast in the same tier. Team 2 stomps, Gogeta needs a better teammate. It was confirmed that Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than the Gods of Destruction including Beerus Wrong. ssj gogeta was already >> ssb goku and vegeta. [–]armchair_science 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Not saying I agree but people like to bring up the point that Kefla could have killed UI Goku, and while yes this is a fully developed ultra instinct that is leaps and bounds over his previous version, a fusion between Goku and Vegeta would also be leaps and bounds above Kefla especially post ToP fusion between the two. team 1 wins, ultra instinct mastered only lasts for a minute lol, beerus also has ultra instinct but imperfect. It makes no difference when going up against Jiren now. But we've never had an accurate scale for it. and how Beerus was finessing multiple gods of destruction at once in the manga, I would say it’s fairly obvious. [–]armchair_science 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children). "Ultra Instinct Goku is … Posts with a clear political or social agenda. There's some dispute about translation, but I think "probably" is the correct term used. If you see a large number of posts about a character, try someone else. and join one of thousands of communities. Jiren, in the anime, is confirmed stronger than Beerus. "Gogeta!" In reality Beerus’ actual power is something they’ve kept ambiguous so that when they do use him they can say that he was always that strong at full power so there’s no asspull, it also seems very unlikely that if Beerus was ever surpassed by Goku that they’d make such a little deal like they did (yes UI was impressive and all that but no statements were made confirming strength and Beerus was most likely just impressed Goku achieved such a form). there is not even one statement where is says jiren> beerus, it was later retconned from the V jump magazine. Beerus should be much stronger than both sidra and toppo. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. His shirt wouldn't even come off. Always admit it up front if you're unfamiliar with a character. 0. It was confirmed that Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than the Gods of Destruction including Beerus. [–]armchair_science 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). 1 Can't Defeat: Krillin. Do not be insulting or derogatory towards others under any circumstances, and don't resort to ad hominem attacks. Mastered UI Goku overpowered Jiren, it would completely destroy Kefla if they fought again. I think beerus and gogeta overpower jiren as he tries to tank something and they eventually tag Goku. Those aren't even impressive though.. SSJG Goku clashing with Beerus was threatening the Universe in the same way. Gogeta was pushed to Blue by Broly, who MIGHT BE stronger than Beerus based only on the power Goku saw of Beerus. can earth ( marvel ) survive a a tyranid invasion, 3 minmaxed Skyrim stealth archers vs the sly cooper trilogy. Spoilers - : [Text Text Text](#spoil "Hidden text"), Mobile-Friendly Spoilers - How to input: [Spoil](/s "text"), MegaMeta - Compilation of Approved [Meta] Posts, Character of the Week/Team of the Month Archive. it means the jump from ssj to ssb is bigger than ssb to jiren or UI. This now includes "You vs" posts as of 29/10/2018; details on why are included in this modpost. And it pissed me off that they didn't have their unique stuff. Team 1 with Gogeta has the MVP. C. Ultra instinct doesn’t make you untouchable even the completed version as evidenced by MUI Goku vs LB Jiren. Regardless, Jiren has far better showings imo. Even if you were to give a little wiggle room, Jiren got a massive power spike, he'd easily be ahead of Beerus by then. Hakai was never used on frieza or goku it was just a small ammount of GoD energy that was overcome. If asked, you must provide evidence for your claims or drop the argument. He is currently the strongest fusion out there as … A full powered MUI Goku might be an annoyance but Beerus just needs to outlast him. It would be weird and inconsistent if he weren't stronger than Beerus. SSJB Gogeta is only “possibly stronger than Beerus”Tries citing a movie that doesn't have complete 100% compatibility with neither the Anime nor Manga and doesn't even get the fact right; it was Broly, not Gogeta. Rendered by PID 4451 on r2-app-056d814da82db5a71 at 2020-12-24 01:58:11.803593+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: FR. We have seen the Hakai technique being overpowered in the show itself. For more information click here. Same with Champa. while UI‘s boost was huge , it seems ppl are simply to slow to realize how huge the fusion boost was in the movie. Honestly, there's no reason not to believe him entirely, he was talking seriously about the matter. VIEW OLDER REPLIES. By TOP universe busting isn't even that impressive. Failure to treat your fellow users with respect can lead to a warning or ban. Can the US Military replace Santa Claus for one Christmas? I didn't read the Manga yet so I can't say anything about this. Team 2 should take it handily. Can a guy with a gun kill a bender from avatar? Sure hes stronger than HIS GoD but that doesn't mean Belmod is stronger than Beerus. Furthermore, If Beerus was truly capable of destroying anything his reaction to Zeno wouldn’t be like this. We were given literal, direct statements to it. unknowingly downplay. Beerus also stopped the universe 7 destruction, I'd say that's pretty high showings compared to Jiren at least. [–]Goku4869 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (4 children), Manga Beerus knows Ultra Instinct (Omen), and judging how full powered Broly couldn't even touch a casual Whis. Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than SSJB Gogeta Dragon Ball - General ... things even more confusing and complicated by bringing in Merus in a debate that was about the anime version of UI Goku vs Beerus. [–]Jamano-Eridzander 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). That also happened in the anime, his power and Goku's nearly destroyed the universe, so he had to erase it. He was even ready to erase Goku at one point, without the need to even power up. Broly didn’t reach full power until his fight with SSJ Gogeta. nonetheless every else is fine. I'm not sure what the anime equivalent to that was. Be nice and we'll respond in kind. Hakai has shown to be negated by being stronger, this was shown by Frieza, Goku and Vegeta. "Fusion. To submit a battle, click the Goku vs Superman (or Doom vs Vader) button above. Who is stronger? [–]CantStopTheRob 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). UI Goku and Jiren should be above Beerus as of now due to current statements, but Borly was hyped to be stronger than Jiren in promotional material, and he has the feats to back him being Jiren tier up, and Gogeta has the clear advantage over him. @alextheboss: Destruction energy probably won't really do much. Yeah but the manga at least seems more consistent to debate in many aspects (like the shockwave feat, which is much more clear im the manga than in the anime in my opinion), but debating the anime is fine too. No, never, not even remotely close. UI boost is also huge but not as big as from ssj to ssb. I was using the manga because of the movie's odd continuity including them both. Assuming unlimited fusion time, I'm going team 1. 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attacks 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) detonates that character has two different lines. We saw the diffrence between normal ssj and ssjg in the manga and anime. Jiren fp >=< goku ultra instinct >= beerus > jiren supressed >> kaioken 20x goku >>> ssb goku The gaps are way bigger + a weaker fusion so i dont think so. I think team 2 can take it mainly because of Jiren. [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Beerus never used his full power in the anime? Overly broad, vague or opinion-reliant posts. @takenstew22: Considering Vegeta alone is stronger than Toppo. He GODSTOMPED a beerus/mui goku level character while suppressed. [–]KingPWNinater 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Ohh and Beerus ain’t no weak link here erase that idea especially while bloodlust with no Hakai restriction. There's also those that claim Goku doesn't know Beerus' full power, although from a manga standpoint that's false as Beerus had no reason to hold back in the God of Destruction battle royale, which Goku witnessed. Joke posts, or posts that are primarily humurous in nature, are not allowed. We encourage the upvoting of all relevant content and have a wide definition of what's acceptable. Posts must be some form of battle, competition, or challenge or they are considered off-topic/META and should go in our weekly off-topic discussion posts. If we go by anime canon, Gogeta is probably far stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken and Evolved Super Saiyan Blue since Goku and Vegeta resorted to fusion to fight Broly instead of using any of these forms, alongside with those statements. Ssj vegito was massively stronger than potential unleashed Gohan. And has Beerus never used his full power in the anime? Krillin is a human from Earth and one of the characters … Being able to destroy 2 universes in one shot is literally the requirement of being 2-C. [–]Galaxy_Megatron 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). Try outlining arenas, special conditions, multiple rounds and specifying the universe/version of characters if you're looking for a good discussion. Only the Manga. Is Gogeta strong enough to take out the GoD? Jiren in his base form is already GoD tier and his final form well exceeds any GoD. Vegeta overcame toppo who wouldn't be on the same level as belmod to produce a hakai to counter full power vegeta attack but he could have easily erased him multiple times as shown from their match. MUI runs out quite fast. Meta posts, multi-part tournaments, and other non-conventional posts require mod approval. Was that confirmed? Apologies go a long way if you mess up. He wasn't even scared by Broly's power, to the point where he just chilled with Bulla all day. re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote Vegetto Blue The Saikyo Jump editorial office tells readers: "Frankly, the enemy Goku … @sup3rn0va: the clash only happened because goku could control his ki hitting beerus, not raw power. Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta vs Ultra Instinct Goku. Beerus didn't even deny it, he just says it was only an arm wrestling competition. As for Gogeta learning UI during the fight, it's too uncertain to consider. He was even ready to erase Goku at one point, without the need to even power up. If Goku and Jiren manage to win before that team 2 takes it. It MIGHT have even surpassed beerus", the picture doesnt mean anything. [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children). C. Ultra instinct doesn’t make you untouchable even the completed version as evidenced by MUI Goku vs LB Jiren. Comments that are a few words and contribute no actual discussion ('lol' or '___ stomps'). The only thing ultra instinct has over beerus is speed and the auto dodge hax, even then jiren was able to bypass that for a moment due to his strength being absolute and all that shit. Team 2 still wins. Not to mention the diffrence between ssj and ssb. He was likely at full power when he fought Champa after the baseball game. Three weakest, they had three gods in that one. Jiren sacrificed and sacrificed every year, more and more of himself. The only way to prove it is by comparing the power up diffrences. Check out our Official Submission Template for a few suggestions on how you can structure your battle with additional conditions and formatting to make it more interesting. Then Goku is pretty much dead. we know broly is possibly stronger than beerus and gogeta absolutely finnesed the hell out of him which also means he's far above the gods including beerus. When was it said Beerus is stronger than Toppo? And LB Jiren is almost on par with MUI Goku so again, it's basically 2 MUI level characters against Beerus and Gogeta Blue and none of them has MUI. And we've seen him do it with extreme ease. We issue warnings if we believe the user means well but we are not obligated to do so. You can be banned for a first offense. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. You're allowed to repost but look to your left first. Zeno is a being who can erase all of existence in the blink of an eye. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. UI Beerus + Hakai form is a force to be reckoned with, that I think alot of people on this sub unknowingly downplay. Gogeta >>>>> UI Goku > Brolly >=< Jiren >=< Beerus It’s ambiguous between the last 3 however UI is stronger than all 3 but is close. We have MUI Goku>Jiren>Belmod>Beerus 100%>>>>>The amount of Beerus's power Goku saw = or < Broly, who immediately pushed Gogeta to Blue once he went LJSS, so MUI Goku >>>>> SSB Gogeta. Ultra Instinct. Even Beerus can’t get Ultra Instinct correctly. Fusion also allowed Goten and trunks to fight way above their individual level that was a significantly bigger boost than any transformation. Characters weaker than Jiren and UI Goku like Golden Frieza and SSJBE Vegeta have resisted Hakai. I have no doubt that a bloodlusted beerus would just start erasing everyone and everything including the universe he's in. I can see Gogeta defeating the other team, especially with the help of Beerus. Whis 's conviction was there his power and Goku and ssjg Goku to that was significantly! 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